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Storing sunshine in salt?

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March 19, 2026

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SUBSTANCE  
Stories about the stuff that shapes our world.

SUBSTANCE is a podcast about the discoveries and innovations in chemistry and beyond helping us to develop sustainable solutions. Host Joe Hanson exchanges ideas with international guests and BASF experts and presents visionary projects and exciting innovations. Curious? Sign up for our newsletter and never miss an episode.  

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Latest Episode: Salt 

Salt may be one of the most familiar substances in everyday life, but in this episode, host Joe Hanson explores how special salts can help store renewable energy and make heat supply CO2‑neutral.

BASF salt expert Dr. Nils‑Olof Born explains why their low melting point makes these nitrogen salts so special and how molten salt from BASF is setting new standards for industrial steam generation in a project in Hungary.

Silvia Trevisan, Assistant Professor at KTH Royal Institute of Technology in Stockholm, Sweden, explains why decarbonizing industrial heat is essential for meaningful emissions reductions and how molten salt systems can help by converting energy into heat, storing it, and releasing it when needed.

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Nils-Olof Born, Global Marketing and Product Manager for inorganic salts

Our guest: Dr. Nils-Olof Born

Nils-Olof Born has been Global Marketing and Product Manager for inorganic salts at BASF since 2022. He studied chemistry from 2007 to 2013 at Johannes Gutenberg University Mainz, Germany, the University of Toronto, Kanada and the Max Planck Institute in Dresden, Germany. He then completed his doctorate at BASF from 2014 to 2017 and subsequently took over the leadership of a laboratory group in the field of inorganic materials.

Silvia Trevisan, Assistant Professor at the KTH Royal Institute of Technology Stockholm, Sweden

Our guest: Assistant Professor Silvia Trevisan

Silvia Trevisan is an Assistant Professor at the KTH Royal Institute of Technology Stockholm, Sweden, focusing on the development of cost-effective thermal energy storage. Besides her academic career, she works as an energy consultant at Europe Power Solutions. Trevisan obtained a PhD in Energy Technology from KTH in April 2022. Before that, she studied Mechanical Engineering and Energy Engineering at the University of Genoa, Italy.

 Our host: Joe Hanson, PhD  Joe Hanson is an internationally recognized science communicator and moderator of the BASF podcast SUBSTANCE..

Our host: Joe Hanson, PhD 

Joe Hanson is an internationally recognized science communicator. Before working in science media and education, he researched genetic engineering and cancer biology, obtaining a PhD in biology from the University of Texas.

He is the creator, host, and head writer of Be Smart, a YouTube science education show with more than 5 million subscribers on YouTube.
Hanson has won Webby and Telly Awards and the Kavli Science Journalism Award for his work. 

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Nils-Olof Born
Global Marketing and Product Manager for inorganic salts at BASF
Photo of our guest Silvia Trevisan
Silvia Trevisan
Assistant Professor at the KTH Royal Institute of Technology
Photo of our host Joe Hanson, PhD
Joe Hanson
Science Communicator, producer, YouTube educator and host of SUBSTANCE 

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